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Scott Robinson grew up in Syracuse, NY, and worked as a professional folk musician from 1986-1994, earning his MMus en route...

A Stuff Will Not Endure

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Composer Round Table discussion with Scott Robinson
and Paul Ayres

GP - R004 "A Stuff Will Not Endure (cycle)," by Scott Robinson - SATB, piano
GP - A002 "So Hallow'd and so Gracious is the Time," by Paul Ayres - SATB, piano


GP: Hello, and welcome to our Round Table! We are talking with composers Scott Robinson and Paul Ayres. Scott is a composer from Philadelphia, and Paul is a composer / conductor / organist working in and around London. Graphite offers choral works from both composers set to the poetry of William Shakespeare. Today we’re taking a look at Scott’s choral cycle “A Stuff will Not Endure” and Paul’s “So Hallow’d and so Gracious is the Time.”

Welcome to you both, and thanks for being with us. As you look at (or listen to) your pieces, what do you hope that people take away from a performance of "A Stuff will Not Endure” and “So Hallow’d and so Gracious is the Time?”

Scott Robinson: Permission to seize the day--because nothing lasts forever!

Paul Ayres: For me, a sense of beauty. An appreciation of Shakespeare’s text. A different 'angle' on Christmas: not many carols or hymns or poems, religious or secular, mention the "Saviour's birth" along with "fairy" and "witch!"

GP: And as you two write for voices in general, what idiomatic concerns do you keep in mind?

PA: I've worked with many amateur choirs of all shapes and sizes, so I hope that I understand what they can and can't do, in terms of range & complexity. The challenge for every composer is to work within these limits, yet to come up with new phrases and sonorities.

SR: Most important to me is that the music should serve the text, by growing organically out of its rhythms, sounds and meanings.

GP: So when you think about your own compositional voice, what about it is evident in this piece? What about this piece makes it Scott Robinson's?

SR: I am deeply suspicious of "art for art's sake;" I'm much more interested in "art for peoples' sake." This piece, allied as it is to text and, by extension, to theater (I originally wrote these for actual productions of the plays) is very much in keeping with that attitude. I hope to entertain people rather than giving them an aesthetic object to contemplate. Moreover, like the medievals, I like to bring forth "new grain from the old fields"--new music rooted in tradition.

GP: Paul, what about you? How do you view your compositional voice?

PA: I try not to think about my "own compositional voice." That's a distraction, I believe: like an actor always thinking about his or her appearance, not about his or her character. But there are many devices I frequently use in my music that one can see in “So Hallow’d and So Gracious…”, eg. canons, imitation, various types of melodic "false relation," step-wise movement in the instrumental bass-line, independence of the vocal bass from the instrumental bass, an expansive (but not virtuosic) piano part, flexibility of strong/weak beats within the measure (sometimes like hemiolas) but with an underlying steady count (not changing time-signatures too often), stylistic influences of Purcell, Vaughan Williams, Britten (not that I call myself their equal!).

GP: You mentioned an expansive piano part. For an accompanied choral piece, how does the piano’s role fit into all of that?

PA: I like to use the full range of the piano where possible. Sometimes the piano helps the vocal parts, playing with them, but I rarely have the piano doubling the choir exactly note-for-note. There are much more interesting ways of doing it! And I like to swap the roles around: sometimes the piano accompanies the vocal melody, sometimes the choir and piano 'bounce' off each other antiphonally, and sometimes the piano comes to the fore, the chorus becoming the accompanying level.

GP: Scott, your piano parts are generally simpler, but still create an appropriate mood for each piece in the cycle. What are your thoughts on the role of the piano?

SR: The piano is there to first support the singers, and secondly to evoke atmosphere.  Being only a fair-to-middling pianist myself, I have always written accompaniments that I could play myself in a pinch, so an accomplished player should have no problem with them.

GP: What sorts of things do you ask of a choir in your writing? What sound do you hear in your head as you compose?

SR: I like a light, natural feel--pre-bel canto, unforced and transparent. Professionals should try to sing like amateurs.

GP: Paul, what do you ask for from a choir, especially when you’re conducting or giving a clinic on your own work?

PA: I like to concentrate on rhythm a lot. In our Western choral tradition, we place great emphasis on intonation - and of course that's important! - but sometimes we worry so much about tuning, tone, vowel production and so on, we don't think much about exactly WHEN we do these things. On one level, it's simple counting, but it's illuminating to experiment with different approaches: are all beats within the measure really equal? Can we place the beats in slightly different places? For example, in a waltz, beat 2 comes fractionally earlier than the metronome would suggest, to achieve the lilting effect; whereas in a slow pop ballad perhaps we might want to place beats 2 and 4 a millisecond late, to get a laid-back feel.

The other element I like to work on is the compositional & improvisatory one. So I will encourage the choir to sing the work with some changes to the notated pitches, rhythms, harmony, texture, underlay or whatever - letting the singers discover how the music's put together "from the inside". By understanding the reason "this is why Mozart used THIS harmony" or "this is why Gershwin put THIS syllable on THAT blue note", musicians are much better able to perform convincingly.

GP: Well thanks again to you both, and I think we all appreciate the deeper look into your compositional process for these two pieces, “A Stuff Will Note Endure” and “So Hallow’d and So Gracious is the Time.” Keep writing!

SR: Thank you.

PA: Cheers!

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Paul AyresPaul Ayres
Paul Ayres was born in London, studied music at Oxford University, and now works freelance as a composer & arranger, choral conductor & musical director, and organist & accompanist. His music usually involves...

So Hallow'd and so Gracious is the Time


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